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#1 henschman

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Posted 02 November 2013 - 10:49 AM

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WINTER IS COMING...
Are you prepared? 

 

The 2014 Pawnee Winter Run 'n Gun is officially open for registration! 

 

You may be a shooter... but how effective are you when you are mentally and physically exhausted, and challenged by the harsh environment of an Oklahoma winter?  The Pawnee Winter Run 'n Gun is designed to help you answer that question.  This event is a center fire biathlon combinging a roughly 6.5 mile run with six challenging shooting stations for rifle and pistol.  It is designed to test both shooters and equipment, to promote physical fitness within the shooting community, and ultimately to make gun owners more effective defenders of life and liberty.

 

Lots of shooters like to talk about what firearms, gear, and accessories they will run if a 2A situation arises and they have to go take care of business.  However, few have actually put their gear to the test in true field conditions.  This event is the perfect place to find out whether your gear works as well as you think it does.  If you don't have the gear to deploy your rifle, pistol, and ammo in the field, this event is the perfect excuse to get what you need.  If you are into 3-gun or other types of competitive shooting, this is an opportunity to apply your skills in a new and challenging format. 

 

This event is being organized by the same folks who brought you the Thunderbird Run 'n Gun last July.

 

Registration is $65, which includes a T-shirt and a hot frito chilli pie meal.  Registration is limited to 70 participants, so sign up today. 

 

For details on the event and to register, visit our website at www.okrunngun.com.  I hope to see you there!

 

PMs regarding this event can be directed to me, or see the contact info on our website. 


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Posted 02 November 2013 - 02:11 PM

Is there a short course? I'm thinking 2-3 miles.

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Posted 02 November 2013 - 03:51 PM

Nah, there's no short course... but 6.5 miles is easy enough if you walk it.  I know I will be walking a lot of it! 


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Posted 04 December 2013 - 11:47 PM

A detailed course of fire for the Run 'n Gun has been posted on the website:  http://www.okrunngun.com/node/6
 
We have some very fun stages planned for y'all.  Also, we have plenty of slots left... I know all of you who signed up have a shooting buddy or two that would enjoy doing this with you.  Get them signed up!  The more shooters there are, the more fun it is for everybody (and the better the prizes will be)!  
 
Here is the COF:

Stage 1 – Awkwardness:  The target will be a 10” plate at approximately 100 yards.  Using your rifle, you must get one hit on the target through each hole of a VTAC board (9 holes total).  This stage is designed to force you to shoot from awkward positions.  One reload must be performed during this stage.  Time limit: 4 minutes.
 
Stage 2 – Surprise:  When you reach this stage, you will lay your rifle down at the position the RO indicates, and move onto the firing position marked with an X.  There will be a silhouette target about 5 feet in front of you.  When the stage begins, you must draw your pistol, move off the X, and fire 5 rounds at the silhouette target WHILE MOVING along the marked pathway to the next designated firing position.  Shots fired while the shooter is standing still will not count.  From the next marked firing position you will have to get three hits on a 12” pistol target while leaning around the right side of the tree firing right handed, and three hits while firing around the left side of the tree firing left handed.  You will then proceed to your rifle, load it, and get two hits on each of five 8” plates that are scattered through the woods from 25 to 35 yards away.  Time limit: 4 minutes.
 
Stage 3 – Winter War Sniper:  This stage will test your effectiveness at controlling the “Rifleman’s Quarter Mile.”  You must get 3 hits on a 20” head-and-shoulders target at approximately 500 yards.  The terrain at the firing position will allow you to get prone.  Hits will be indicated by a flashing strobe.  Time limit: 4 minutes.
 
Stage 4 – War of the Rats:  This is a “battlefield pickup” stage.  Before you start, you will be given a clip of rifle ammo.  When the stage begins, you will have to crawl under a barbed wire obstacle to a Mosin-Nagant M91/30 rifle, load it with the provided ammo, and get one hit on each of two 12”x18” steel plates at approximately 200 yards.  You will be firing prone from underneath the barbed wire.  Time limit: 4 minutes. 
 
Stage 5 – The Slaughtering Hole:  For this stage, you will need to have a rifle magazine loaded with only two rounds of ammo.  The RO will check your magazine before you begin.  When the stage begins, you will move to the firing position with your rifle.  Your target is an 8” plate located across a pond at approximately 50 yards.  You must first engage this target with your rifle, firing through a barrel with a hole cut in the bottom.  When you have fired both rounds and your rifle is empty, you must transition to your pistol.  If you didn’t get both hits with your rifle, you will have to get the hit(s) on that target with your pistol instead, firing from the marked position next to the barrel.  You will then be required to get 3 hits on each of three 12” targets across the pond at approximately 50 yards with your pistol.  Time limit: 4 minutes.
 
Stage 6 – Resupply Run/Hold the Hill:  Stage 6 is located on top of a large burial mound.  At the base of the mound in a well-marked location will be some ammo cans.  You must carry an ammo can up the mound with you to stage 6.  You cannot begin this stage until you deliver the ammo can.  When the stage begins, you must get three hits on each of three 12x18” targets.  One target will be at approximately 100 yards, one will be at approximately 200 yards, and the other will be at approximately 300 yards.  The terrain will allow you to shoot prone.  Time limit:  4 minutes.
 
Total ammo required for this event with 100% hits:  33 rifle, 20 pistol.

 

 


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Posted 05 December 2013 - 08:57 AM

6.5 miles is a long ways but...

1  This is in Oklahoma

2  Good reason to do some Cardio

3  JT won't be there lol



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Posted 05 December 2013 - 09:41 AM

I need to sign up for this.



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Posted 05 December 2013 - 10:10 AM

I need to sign up for this.

Lonnie ran this in the summer & did really well, no rule says you can't walk

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Posted 05 December 2013 - 12:38 PM

Corey will you carry me. LOL :sarcastichand:



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Posted 05 December 2013 - 04:56 PM

I wanna go.

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Posted 05 December 2013 - 08:32 PM

I have no idea where my rifle hits at 500 yards, but this sounds like fun.


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Posted 06 December 2013 - 09:39 AM

Mitch go to the silhouette range at the gun club and shoot out to 500 meters
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Posted 06 December 2013 - 10:14 AM

I have no idea where my rifle hits at 500 yards, but this sounds like fun.

That's a long ways for a .223 out of an AR hopefully there won't be a 20 mph wind to fight.  Little to no wind = more hits, High wind = more time outs (Unless your Rick Honey they let him shoot everything from 50 yds do to his glaucoma, assuming he shares his medicinal medication).

 

I am pulling off the 1-4 and putting something on with a little more power.



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Posted 06 December 2013 - 11:48 AM

That's a long ways for a .223 out of an AR hopefully there won't be a 20 mph wind to fight. Little to no wind = more hits, High wind = more time outs (Unless your Rick Honey they let him shoot everything from 50 yds do to his glaucoma, assuming he shares his medicinal medication).

I am pulling off the 1-4 and putting something on with a little more power.


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Posted 06 December 2013 - 11:57 AM

Could you use 300 WSM?

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Posted 06 December 2013 - 11:57 AM

For your doping pleasure:

The M855 (SS109 moving 3020fps out of the 20" M16A2, with a BC of .304), in a full-value L-R wind at 20mph does this at 500:  Drops 53.5" and drifts 61.04" (out of my calculator).

 

At 500, that's an 11MOA drop, and a 12MOA drift.  That means that you can either dial your dope on your optic or, with a 7MOA front sight post, you can hold your front sight post 1.5 widths left of target center, and hold over the target one head height (for a start).  If you actually have an A2-style rear sight (or a variant) you just dial it up 11 clicks, and left 12 clicks (again, as a start). 

 

Okay, wind's not an issue anymore :)  Just print a table, tape it to your stock or put it in one of these   pbb-x__1.jpg, and get those hits, baby!


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Posted 06 December 2013 - 12:33 PM

Could you use 300 WSM?

Gaming it up already?

I'm not worried about the rifle. I know it will be fine. I'm trying to decide where I will be after 6.5 miles. Here's the progression.
Run
Walk
Crawl
Pass out.

At least it won't be hot.

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Posted 06 December 2013 - 04:22 PM

The 500 yard shot is down a pipeline easement that is cut through the woods.  The trees should keep the cross-breeze down somewhat. 

 

The standard come-ups for 55 or 62 grain 5.56 in MOA, from 100 to 500 meters, in 100 meter increments, are 2,2,3,4.  Those are cumulative.  This will be 500 yards, so more like 450m.

 

Even if you've never shot to this distance, it is a full head-and-shoulders size target (20"), so standard come-ups or ballistics calculator data should get you hits if you have good enough fundamentals to shoot 4 MOA from prone.  

We had a 400 yard shot at the Thunderbird run in July, and lots of people who had never shot that distance surprised themselves by getting hits.  We only gave the runners 1.5 minutes to get 3 hits at 400 at Thunderbird... here we are giving y'all 4 minutes to get 3 hits at 500.  So plenty of time to get relaxed, get in a good position, get your natural point of aim on target, and make those hits.  I do predict lots of people will blow a lot of ammo on this stage though. 


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Posted 06 December 2013 - 05:43 PM

Strelok is a really good program. Here is what it does.

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Posted 06 December 2013 - 06:04 PM

Ok. Who, besides Corey, feels like they would be able to do this now? I'm pretty sure if I went out tomorrow and did 6.5 miles it would turn into more like 2 miles. Then a coronary followed by airlift. I wonder if I could run enough in between now and then to make a good showing?

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Posted 06 December 2013 - 06:44 PM

Strelok is a really good program. Here is what it does.


I was messing with this app recently. Are there any load tables for factory ammo?




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