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#21 mattmiller (Robusto)

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Posted 11 December 2015 - 09:44 AM

I just feed mine 9mm/ 124grain FMJ gun food and clean it every other Sunday.


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Posted 13 December 2015 - 05:42 PM

I recomend buying any sort of shot timer, I used mine(Pocket Pro II) for the first time on saterday. I think any practice without the timer is sort of loss because you wont know if your doing better or worse, ability to try new things ect. Unless you are just getting used to the gun/sights.

 

I am now in the debate of purchasing bulk 1000 round 9 mm Brass Brazer from targetsportsusa.com for 219.99 free shipping. The question I have for you in comp is should i get 124grain of 115grain. Both are the same price, 10.99 a box. When I went to rent some guns they made me use range ammo only so i got a 50box of 115grain Finochi. I snuck in a zip lock of 25 124grain Winchester. I personally like the 115grain b.c of the lower recoil(screw in right wrist). If there is a big advantage for 124grain please LMK.



#23 Matt Rigsby

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Posted 13 December 2015 - 06:35 PM

The advantages to the higher grain bullet is a harder knockdown for steel, but with a good shot placement it shouldn't matter what grain you use because the steel is supposed to be calibrated for 115 grain 9mm.

If the 115 is better for your wrist, you should use that. No point in risking further injury for a match.

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Posted 13 December 2015 - 08:33 PM

The advantages to the higher grain bullet is a harder knockdown for steel


I disagree. At a given power factor, the amount of energy delivered to the steel should be the same regardless of bullet weight.

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Posted 13 December 2015 - 09:47 PM

I believe that PF is momentum while the actual energy delivered to a steel plate would be a force. Depending on the distance mass and velocity of the projectile (low weight high speed vs higher weight lower speed) there will be a difference between the energy delivered on target....I think...I've been drinking since the Chiefs game started.

I also don't feel like doing math right now to prove or disprove my statement. It's easier to just make a statement and walk away whistling.


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Posted 13 December 2015 - 10:53 PM

I know that a bowling pin flings off the table a lot more violently with a .45 vs a .40

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Posted 13 December 2015 - 11:05 PM

I know that a bowling pin flings off the table a lot more violently with a .45 vs a .40

Much different than steel

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Posted 13 December 2015 - 11:30 PM

Lighter projectiles deliver more energy
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Posted 14 December 2015 - 12:13 AM

What universe are you guys living in?

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Posted 14 December 2015 - 02:45 AM

Would you rather get hit by a bus going 25mph or a remote control car doing 50 mph?

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Posted 14 December 2015 - 03:54 AM

Much different than steel


Different material, same concept.
You can clearly see the force exerted from a 230 grain going 950 fps vs a 180 grain going 1100+

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Posted 14 December 2015 - 08:53 AM

Different material, same concept.
You can clearly see the force exerted from a 230 grain going 950 fps vs a 180 grain going 1100+

Also talking about a fixed vs non fixed target. Also talking about penatrable vs non penatrable surface.

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Posted 14 December 2015 - 08:54 AM

Would you rather get hit by a bus going 25mph or a remote control car doing 50 mph?

It'd be more like 1mph vs 20,000 mph

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Posted 14 December 2015 - 04:29 PM

steel is supposed to be calibrated for 115 grain 9mm.


My apologies. After reviewing the rules, it does not specify a grain of bullet to be used for calibration.
The rules just say 9mm bullet and the power factor between 115 and 125.

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Posted 17 December 2015 - 02:29 PM

The USPSA rules do not specify caliber, only power factor..  You can use any caliber but 9mm is recommended..

 

Point being, I can't recall a well struck piece of steel, that is properly set, not going down for anything caliber or bullet weight specific.  Much like people saying you need 69 or 77 grain .223's for LaRues or any target at distance.  Find out what works for the gun you get..



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Posted 17 December 2015 - 10:43 PM

What universe are you guys living in?


one where people slept through the lectures on elastic/inelastic collisions in high school physics
 
 

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I own a passel of M&Ps and I'm inclined to agree with this. Not that M&Ps are bad but magazines, sights, etc are so much easier to come by.
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Posted 17 December 2015 - 11:13 PM

M&P? Never heard of her.
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Posted 18 December 2015 - 06:34 AM

my facebook and this forum have officially become a terrible continuum of your & micah's shitposts
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Posted 18 December 2015 - 06:50 AM

Makereadyproshop.com
Theshooterssource.com
Speedshooterspecialties.com

They all have parts for the M&P

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Posted 24 December 2015 - 07:48 PM

FFL dealer got this in the mail on 12-21-15. On 12-22-15 I went to work and he had a blue plastic case for me.

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