If you don't vote, you're a Dumb Ass

BurkLee

Regular guy
Staff member
Sound kind of harsh? Well it isn't.

Let me begin by saying I HATE POLITICS AND MOST POLITICIANS!

Some of the best advice I ever got was from a person whom I have the utmost respect for. Truthfully, I don't even remember what question I asked him or what advice I sought from him. But his answer still resounds to this day, "Don't be a Dumb Ass"

The other day my wife was talking to someone about politics (a frequent topic around our house) and she asked the person if they voted. Their response blew me away. The person said “I didn't know who to vote for so I didn't vote. I didn't want anyone to blame me”. I am continually amazed at the number of people who don’t vote.

My personal political beliefs aside, I believe that one of the most powerful rights we have in this country is the right to vote. Look at Colorado in 2013. When the public got fed up with the way things were going they voted to remove two State Senators from office. Yes, change can be made by a large enough, loud enough voice. But you have to make that voice heard. Not voting will not get you heard.

If you are unsatisfied with the way things are going in your county, state or the country, and don’t know what to do or who to vote for, take a few minutes and Google the candidates and see what they say, how they feel, what they do.

*WARNING*

Not everything you read on the internet is true. Not everything a candidate says is true.

*WARNING*

You have to be discerning, which isn't easy in life or in politics. Make sure the information you are reading is from a reliable source (i.e. not the person running against them or their political party). A pretty good rule of thumb is don’t listen to any political ads on TV or radio. I think it is sad that elections are won by how much money someone spends on ads. And don’t kid yourself, it works, if you let it. So at the risk of sounding hypocritical, don’t make an uniformed vote. That’s ALMOST as bad as not voting at all. ALMOST

Most people know what kind of fundamental beliefs they posses. Find a candidate that possesses some of those same beliefs and go from there. If you are conservative find the conservatives you like. If you are more liberal, find some of those. You owe it to your state and country to do the research on the issues and candidates. If you don’t vote because you didn't know who to vote for, I can and will blame you for what happens.

I think some of the most important elections have been won or lost because someone either thought it was so lop-sided that they didn't need to vote or the victorious candidate got more “non-voters” to come out that typically don’t.

The 2016 elections could change the course of our country for the next 8 years. Are you willing to go through that knowing that you didn't have a say in it? I’m not.

DONT BE A DUMB ASS!


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Scott Hearn

Scott Hearn
This seems pertinent and is a great read from a great guy. The one and only Mike Rowe. Read the whole thing at the link, it's well worth the time. But the gist is that if you don't know what you're voting on it's probably a good idea not to vote. So get educated first.

Hi there, Rick Snee. Mike Rowe here. Nice to meet you.
For starters, I’d like to assure your readers that I’ve never told anyone they shouldn’t vote. I simply explained why I don’t publicly encourage people I’ve never met to cast a ballot.
Obviously, every eligible citizen who wishes to cast a vote should be welcomed at the polls. However, recognizing this right and acknowledging its importance is very different than publicly encouraging everyone to exercise it. Along with millions of responsible Americans, our electorate now includes a healthy mix of citizens with no understanding of how our government works, and no desire to learn. Yes – they too, have every right to vote. But no – I’m not encouraging them to do so. Just as I am not encouraging people who haven’t taken a gun safety course to run out and buy an AR-15. It’s just not responsible.
http://mikerowe.com/2016/10/seriously-guys/
 

BurkLee

Regular guy
Staff member
Definitely Deplorable said:
This seems pertinent and is a great read from a great guy. The one and only Mike Rowe. Read the whole thing at the link, it's well worth the time. But the gist is that if you don't know what you're voting on it's probably a good idea not to vote. So get educated first.


http://mikerowe.com/2016/10/seriously-guys/
So you completely negated everything I just said?

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jcameron996

Active Member
The best analogy I have heard for presidential elections has been especially true for the last few. "You are going to eat a shit sandwich, you just get to choose what kind of bread it's on."

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dennishoddy

Moderator
I've always been an independent voter. I don't give a crap about your party affiliation. If you can convince me that you will make my life and the lives of my fellow citizens better, I'm going to vote for you, Dem or Rep.

The most important issue in this whole sordid mess we are calling an election right now is who is going to be appointed to the Supreme Court.

Think about it. Hillary has already said that "common sense regulations are needed" which is a key word for more gun control like her husband did and in speeches she has affirmed that is the way she is going.

Trump has said negative things in the past about the 2nd Amendment. 80's I think. Part of the environment he was around. When you run with the crowd that is constantly anti anything, you tend to assimilate with them and their ideals.

I was raised the same way. Nobody in my family other than my grandpa owned guns and the two he owned were passed down to him by his dad. He gave them to me when I turned 16 yrs old. He was Glad to get them out of the house.
I had shown a major interest in firearms buying my first with lawn mowing money at 12 years old. Dad had to buy it, but I gave him the money. LOL. Straw purchase, not legal now. I attribute the interest to reading books about hunting. I was ate up with Call of the Wild, and other books like that. Love of the outdoors has followed me ever since.
Little ol' .410 is still with me.
I related that story to show that some people can change their views no matter what the lame stream media says. For whatever reason, Trumps kids took up guns and hunting. He learned from them that guns and hunting were not bad things like those around him had convinced him.
I'd sure like to know who the mentor that broke Trumps kids into hunting and guns was. Big pat on the back.

So, Yes, vote what your heart says to do. Let no one shame you into not doing that.
 

DD78

New Member
I vote.....begrudgingly. For one, I believe that in a typical election, both choices are owned so what we actually have is the illusion of choice. I also live in a state where if every republican actually got off their ass and went to vote, a democrat would still win the state. The dead routinely get out and vote. What we should all be worried about this time around is Hillary winning and stacking the court with left wing wackos. With all that being said, this is the first election I've seen in a while where one candidate (Trump) seems to be untainted by the forces that typically buy politicians. I believe this is why he's largely disliked by the parties. I honestly don't think he'd make a good president, but Hillary would be far worse. This election season has really disgusted me. Somehow we got Trump, when if we'd actually voted for someone like Rand, we might actually win, even with the blatant voter irregularities on the dem side.
 

poopgiggle

B Class Nobody
I do not like either presidential candidate. Neither do most people. You still need to vote anyways.

For Oklahoma residents, there are some very important state questions on the ballot this year. Not to mention state and local races, the results of which will probably have far more impact on your day-to-day life than who the president is.
 

DD78

New Member
dr poopgiggle said:
so how do you explain george ryan?
He was a RINO.

More than half of the Illinois republican politicians are RINO's. Cook County controls the state.

It's very rare that Illinois actually gets a true conservative. Even our current governor Rauner doesn't fit that description.

I'd be extremely happy to be proven wrong on Election Day and see Trump win the state. Won't happen though.

Illinois has been near the top of the list of states people are fleeing. Most of those fleeing aren't democrats. I'll be out of here within the next couple of years if all goes according to plan.
 

poopgiggle

B Class Nobody
DD78 said:
Illinois has been near the top of the list of states people are fleeing. Most of those fleeing aren't democrats.
I left in '06. I left a flat broke state that's controlled by the Daley machine, and ended up in a flat broke state that's controlled by the oil industry.

At least I can carry here.
 

DD78

New Member
dr poopgiggle said:
I left in '06. I left a flat broke state that's controlled by the Daley machine, and ended up in a flat broke state that's controlled by the oil industry.

At least I can carry here.
I carry here. Not open, but concealed. I have since March of 2014 when I received my carry license in the first batch that went out. Our law isn't the greatest, but at least it's shall issue, and most of the places where you're not allowed to carry I don't frequent so for me it's alright.

One example of why I want out, is a bill that someone introduced for the serialization of ammo. These people are fucking retarded.
 

DD78

New Member
Definitely Deplorable said:
I remember when that happened. These scumbags will try anything to win.

The thing that pisses me off the most about voter fraud is that it's a complete manipulation of our system. You have powerful people who want to choose who they feel is the best candidate for them, and not us. It's astounding what people choose to ignore these days.

If this was the 60's, or hell even the 70's, if a male candidate like Hillary ran for office with as much shit surrounding them as her, they'd be forced to step down. Back then even though we were still taking it in the ass, at least we stood for something....we had ethics.....morals. Today we're just taking it in the ass and asking for more.

I quite honestly just want to see Trump win so that the left can lose their minds while I invest money in all of the companies that produce the most frequently prescribed mental health meds. Hey, might as well make money off of them right? lol
 

BurkLee

Regular guy
Staff member
I don't think any of the state questions are written very well.

In fact, please remember, the question you vote on is NOT the language that gets written into law. That is about 200 pages of bullshit.

In fact, if you have not read all of the hundreds of pages of "companion bills" that go along with each state question, you better VOTE NO ON ALL OF THEM

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poopgiggle

B Class Nobody
Burk Cornelius said:
I don't think any of the state questions are written very well.

In fact, please remember, the question you vote on is NOT the language that gets written into law. That is about 200 pages of bullshit.

In fact, if you have not read all of the hundreds of pages of "companion bills" that go along with each state question, you better VOTE NO ON ALL OF THEM

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stop trying to convince people to vote no on 792
 

jtischauser

I'm addicted to kicking ass
Staff member
dr poopgiggle said:
I do not like either presidential candidate. Neither do most people. You still need to vote anyways.

For Oklahoma residents, there are some very important state questions on the ballot this year. Not to mention state and local races, the results of which will probably have far more impact on your day-to-day life than who the president is.
Is there a good place to go read a summary of what those state bills actually do? I most concerned about legalized cannabis and high point beer.
 
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